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Post by artilect on Apr 30, 2015 17:15:56 GMT
This thread will generally focus on the Qrixkuor: When reading The Ninth Arch (and also Against the Light), the image of the Qrixkuor looms large. Grant describes this variously as a bird, bird-beetle or spider-bat and its main role in the books is that it both absorbs the kalas of the skryer Margaret Leesing in the Candleston Crypt and simultaneously injects into her head 'the strange light of the Mauve Zone' (see Against the Light). Grant calls the conduit for this information-transfer 'tangled light', which is defined in the glossary of TNA as a 'fusion of soli-lunar currents infused by the transplutonic vibrations of New Isis'. In reading TNA/AtL and coming across the frequent mention of tangled light I was reminded of an idea put forth in the behemoth of New Age books, The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav (found on page 93 no less!): Another close approximation to this will be familiar to Philip K Dick fans as the 'Pink Beam'. From Lawrence Sutin's Divine Invasions: A Life of Philip K. Dick (pg 218-19): Curiously, PKD insisted that these non-dream dreams were populated with 'three-eyed beings' (see page 220 of Sutin's book for PKD's own LAM-like drawing). From PKD's Exegesis: Now, from Grant's The Ninth Arch, where non-dream dreams are 'unslept dreams': Three eyes and the crab/beetle/Qrixkuor connection: So here we have, across a few sources, the idea of a presumably non-human intelligence from Sirius/Nu Isis facilitating information-transfer via light, sometimes within (but perhaps not limited to) the domain of dreams (but not normal dreams as we know them), along with a description of entities associated with this non-human intelligence as being three-eyed with beetle and crab-like features or attributes. Grant contends that 'the superabundance of co-incidental' gematria within OKBISh confirms the transmission originated via occult [or potentially alien] intelligence or intelligences. Meanwhile, PKD asserts that the nature of the dreams (or non-dreams) that he was experiencing proved without a doubt that something from 'outside' was interfacing with him. What I'm wondering is... where does the 'facehugger' from Alien fit in?
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on May 6, 2015 17:22:45 GMT
Artilect, I really appreciate your research and connections here. It reminds me a lot of where I was about ten years ago, especially with the inclusion of Philip K. Dick's ideas which I spent a great deal of time with myself back then. When I have more of an inclination to get back into this line of thinking I will gladly put some effort into this discussion because I do still have an interest in it. Currently though, I'm in the middle of my own threads of research in other areas and I don't want to break away from that at the moment. Good thread though. Look forward to seeing what else you come to.
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Post by artilect on May 7, 2015 2:34:56 GMT
Yep, I went through the requisite PKD, McKenna, Robert Anton Wilson, Leary, Lilly, et al phase as the millennial fever was rising. I don't often return to those guys these days either. You kinda take what you can and move on, but the Qrixkuor information-download via light/beetle/crab connection prompted me to dig out the PKD stuff again. I did do another pass of him a couple of years back when his Exegesis came out in a fuller form than was previously available within In Pursuit of Valis. I do lots of big swings though, every few years returning to the same material with a new perspective. Ufology is a good one for that. Right now it's reading these Trilogies from back to front it seems!
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on May 14, 2015 16:14:57 GMT
I just began re-reading The Ninth Arch and the following detail stuck out to me to ask about here. On page xxiv of the "General Introduction" Grant talks about the day after an intense ritual where they are now dismantling an obelisk in the temple that was the focal point of the ritual and he says a black egg-shaped stone was found at its base "sunk in an oily mess". He goes on to describe its different effects when held by different individuals. Given the context of this particular part of the narrative it sounds as if Grant meant this in a literal fashion so I was wondering if this stone is an actual relic that was found and is still in existence; has anyone on these forums ever seen it? Or does anyone know any more about it? Further down the page Grant says that is was a manifested form of the Ixaxaar and that "it also embodied the black akash-egg of Lam".
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Post by PW PV 113 on May 15, 2015 9:05:54 GMT
I think that the hypnotic presence of the spider, beetle and other insectival forms is a pointer to the fact that they - and this is to say in plain language more than others might say - are, like the human form, bodies in which consciousness can be conveyed.
Consider the physical plane and the plane inhabited after the point of conscious death.
On the physical plane of life, the human body has very high-level environmental requirements - in terms of living within certain temperatures with a certain amount of oxygen; we also need regular food and drink in large quantities, we need a lot of sleep, to say nothing of the several years of total helplessness we spend at the start of our lives.
Consider these requirements to be paralleled in terms of the investment in energy that must be made to maintain a form based on the human form as a vehicle for consciousness in a non-physical dimension; your traditional light-body.
Under the circumstances after death (I admit I'm speculating here...), if one is not deluded by the light and sucked into the energy-body of a major religious, racial, group soul or other astral parasite, and one makes the conscious choice to evolve "against the light", and ignore all the visions (Tibetan Book of the Dead), one has then a lengthy journey to make (metaphorically) before that freedom can be substantially realised (conjecture).
Under these circumstances, a more durable body and one that requires less maintenance would be desirable.
Note that this is therefore not primarily about the consciousnesses of spiders, beetles, red ants, flies etc, it is about inhabiting their forms; however in so doing, one must interface with those consciousnesses in a respectful manner and such appropriate energetic protocols as exist ought to be maintained. In practice, it may be uncomfortable and confronting. The manner of attaining the crossing of the interdimensional equivalent of space to the transplutonic Isis, the inner abyss or desert scenario to the city of the Pyramids, is I believe what is pointed at.
By the way, I also believe that was Don Juan's game. Furthermore, the galactic centre can also be the destination; the point is not to be blinded by the Sun.
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Post by stephen on May 15, 2015 15:01:41 GMT
I just began re-reading The Ninth Arch and the following detail stuck out to me to ask about here. On page xxiv of the "General Introduction" Grant talks about the day after an intense ritual where they are now dismantling an obelisk in the temple that was the focal point of the ritual and he says a black egg-shaped stone was found at its base "sunk in an oily mess". He goes on to describe its different effects when held by different individuals. Given the context of this particular part of the narrative it sounds as if Grant meant this in a literal fashion so I was wondering if this stone is an actual relic that was found and is still in existence; has anyone on these forums ever seen it? Or does anyone know any more about it? Further down the page Grant says that is was a manifested form of the Ixaxaar and that "it also embodied the black akash-egg of Lam". The description of that particular ritual is rather remarkable, but Grant does place it in a 'literal' context. It took place at the Lodge premises in Melcombe Street, London, and he states that certain strange phenomena were witnessed by people in the area. He gives a date as well (sorry not to be more specific, I am in my local library as usual and do not have TNA with me) and I have attempted to check this out on UFO websites etc. but without success. Given that the coalescence of such a magical 'stone' is not entirely beyond the realms of possibility in certain ritual circumstances, if it had more than a limited span of existence as a material object, I would imagine that it did find a place in the New Isis museum of objets d'art, but I have no personal knowledge of this. It would be good to imagine that it was this object that was being studied in the painting by Steffi Grant entitled "The Stellar Lode".
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Post by stephen on May 15, 2015 15:29:13 GMT
With reference to the Qrixquor it is worth remembering that Grant gives the value of the word as being 666, that is QRISKVOR. The word suggests 'criss-cross' with a clear reference to the 'tangled light', or indeed, to a lattice of light. Also, perhaps, 'crooked-cross' suggesting the swastika as the symbol of Rashith-ha-gilgalim: first swirling motions. The alien corporeal form that it assumes has also been identified as an 'owl-bat'; the form in which it was to feature in the oneiric rites of The Tower of Koth Lodge, (technically no longer in existence at the present time, alas). It is more than probable that the symbol of the Qrixquor is to be seen among the conic sigils featured in "Man is a Bundle of Ids". What I'm wondering is... where does the 'facehugger' from Alien fit in? - Artilect asks. Well it doesn't of course, but you might like to check out if Clark Ashton Smith's "The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis" gives a better fit Available on www.eldritch.com
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on May 15, 2015 21:18:36 GMT
The description of that particular ritual is rather remarkable, but Grant does place it in a 'literal' context. It took place at the Lodge premises in Melcombe Street, London, and he states that certain strange phenomena were witnessed by people in the area. He gives a date as well (sorry not to be more specific, I am in my local library as usual and do not have TNA with me) and I have attempted to check this out on UFO websites etc. but without success. Given that the coalescence of such a magical 'stone' is not entirely beyond the realms of possibility in certain ritual circumstances, if it had more than a limited span of existence as a material object, I would imagine that it did find a place in the New Isis museum of objets d'art, but I have no personal knowledge of this. It would be good to imagine that it was this object that was being studied in the painting by Steffi Grant entitled "The Stellar Lode". That literal or objective aspect is what caught my attention about the account of that ritual upon this reading. Not sure why I never thought much of it before; perhaps I just took it for Grant-ed. Of course most magical work exists in a liminal space but, as you mentioned, Grant makes special mention that there were pedestrian witnesses to some of the objective effects of this particular working; the pinkish-blue vapour, the UFO, a "not-unpleasant odour", and then the next day with the stone in question, etc. The date Grant gives is 15th of June, 1959. I think my own current preoccupations with "psychoid phenomena" in the last couple of years may be what brings this aspect of this ritual to my attention for a closer examination. And thanks for mentioning "The Stellar Lode". It's funny to me that you mention it because I also thought about this painting yesterday after I posted the above and it struck me also that it may be a visual representation of the same account that Grant details in TNA, almost as if the painting is portraying the initial discovery of the stone. I'd never thought of that painting in this light before. I first saw that "Stellar Lode" painting on the cover of the old Skoob Esoterica Anthology that contained Grant's story of the same name and have always been kind of fascinated by it. Of course I didn't have much of a context for it back then and didn't even know at that time that the man in the middle with the pointy ears was a version of Grant himself. I'll have to take a look at the story again as well. I don't remember it being along the same lines as the account in TNA though but perhaps there may be some enlightening clues upon reading it again with these things in mind.
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Post by stephen on May 18, 2015 13:55:07 GMT
"And thanks for mentioning "The Stellar Lode". It's funny to me that you mention it because I also thought about this painting yesterday after I posted the above and it struck me also that it may be a visual representation of the same account that Grant details in TNA, almost as if the painting is portraying the initial discovery of the stone. I'd never thought of that painting in this light before. I first saw that "Stellar Lode" painting on the cover of the old Skoob Esoterica Anthology that contained Grant's story of the same name and have always been kind of fascinated by it. Of course I didn't have much of a context for it back then and didn't even know at that time that the man in the middle with the pointy ears was a version of Grant himself. I'll have to take a look at the story again as well. I don't remember it being along the same lines as the account in TNA though but perhaps there may be some enlightening clues upon reading it again with these things in mind."
Well, really, Nalyd: "the man in the middle with the pointy ears" indeed. He has a rather suave, Bela Lugosi-look about him too !
Clearly, in the painting, Grant and the ladies (identification speculative) are studying what appears to be a multi-faceted crystal, but its imagery did come to mind in the context of the stone. And such concepts are interchangeable in the Trilogies: the Black Stone IXAXAAR, Achad's Whole, or Perfect Stone and the Tibetan Chintamani Stone.
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Post by artilect on May 28, 2015 19:01:18 GMT
With reference to the Qrixquor ... What I'm wondering is... where does the 'facehugger' from Alien fit in? - Artilect asks. Well it doesn't of course, but you might like to check out if Clark Ashton Smith's "The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis" gives a better fit Available on www.eldritch.com Thanks for drawing our attention to this story. I'm going to give a read. For others who may want to check it out, I think this is where to find it: www.eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/231PW PV 113, this entire post is profound for me... it mirrors a lot of my own interests, specifically with the Yesod-Daath relationship and the role or aim of the 'leaper' or Voltigeur. The potential implication is that Tiphereth, in one of its forms, could be a false light or point of deception. I'd be interested in hearing if any others on the board have insight. For a tie to Grant, see The Ninth Arch page 333, the last half of the comment to 499-9.
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Post by stephen on Jun 1, 2015 13:55:12 GMT
In the preceding post Artilect says:
PW PV 113, this entire post is profound for me... it mirrors a lot of my own interests, specifically with the Yesod-Daath relationship and the role or aim of the 'leaper' or Voltigeur. The potential implication is that Tiphereth, in one of its forms, could be a false light or point of deception. I'd be interested in hearing if any others on the board have insight. For a tie to Grant, see The Ninth Arch page 333, the last half of the comment to 499-9.
NO, this is an erroneous line of speculation. The idea that Daath is a 'false' sephirah appears to have reached its height in Golden Dawn Qabbalistic dogma, we should not make the same mistake by repeating the exercise with Tiphereth.
In the glossary of Hecate's Fountain, KG has this definition of Tiphereth:
"The Sixth Cosmic Power Zone. It is not quite the Central Point or Pivot of the Sephirotic Tree, for there are 11, not 10, sephiroth. Tiphereth is the locus of the Angel, 'Knowledge & Conversation' with whom is essential before the magician may establish contact with the Outer Ones".
The beginning of the "Dark Angel" chapter in HF (pp.158-159, Skoob edn.) is essential reading with reference to Tiphereth and the Angel (HGA) and the vital importance of this contact. It requires careful reading, so I will not make any attempt to summarise it here.
In the TNA comment to OKBISh verse 499, where KG speaks of passing via the Yesodic entrance to the back of the Tree and ascending, or leaping directly to Daath and the Clear Light, is an allusion to what he states in more detail on page 167 of HF, where he speaks of Daath and Yesod as the Two Moons on the Tree. The Daath-Yesod relationship is crucial to Nightside Metaphysicks. By making this 'leap' one is by-passing not only Tiphereth, but the entire Hod-Netzach-Tiphereth-Geburah-Chesed complex.
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Post by artilect on Jun 1, 2015 15:08:44 GMT
Fantastic stephen and just in time as I'm into Hecate's Fountain right now. I'll be sure to tread carefully when I get to the 'Dark Angel' chapter.
Regarding this line of thinking, what do you (or does anyone) make of the Grant's mention of 'false light' at the start of 'Part II: Chapter 15 - Saksaksalim' (pg 226 Skoob edition) in Nightside of Eden? This is regarding the 25th ray, which falls between Yesod (Gamaliel) and Tiphereth (Thagirion):
"The 25th Ray illumines the Tunnel of Saksaksalim whose number is 300...Light in Extension also has this number. It is the False Light, the Great L.I.E., which is the Word of Choronzon mirrored in the Abyss."
If Tiphereth is so crucial on the path up the middle pillar - and I think most would agree it is for the reasons stephen pointed out (K&C of HGA, etc.) - what could be gained by making a leap over the 'Hod-Netzach-Tiphereth-Geburah-Chesed complex'?
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Post by stephen on Jun 6, 2015 11:30:31 GMT
Hi Artilect - apologies for my delay in responding - and no one else has chosen to do so. " The 25th Ray illumines the Tunnel of Saksaksalim whose number is 300...Light in Extension also has this number. It is the False Light, the Great L.I.E., which is the Word of Choronzon mirrored in the Abyss."
This KG quote did come as a bit of a surprise and I am not quite sure of his meaning. I believe that you have added the emphasis to 'Lie' here. Why Light in Extension should be regarded as the Great Lie seems obscure to me, perhaps he is working from something in Crowley's writings here ? I've been trying to recall references to a 'False Light' in Qabbalah and have just been doing some tentative Hebrew translation and a google search which came up with: Lucifer here represents the intellectual mind without the illumination of the spiritual mind; therefore it is "the false light."
Manly P. Hall - The Secret Teachings of All Ages p.99 - there is more. Now as regards Tiphereth and the Chesed-Geburah-Tiphereth-Netzach-Hod complex, this is attributed to the Ruach, or Intellect. See correspondences in 777 - typically, I forgot to note down the Column number, somewher in the 90s, I think. Therefore, Tiphereth needs to be illuminated by the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel, or otherwise it will function as a false light. And then of course, there is the possibility of the Evil Genius, the Dweller on the Threshold. You need to read the "Dark Angel" chapter in Hecate's Fountain on this. The experience of Tiphereth is essential on the Dayside Tree, but by accessing the Nightside via Yesod and making the leap to Daath one is not only bypassing the Ruach, or Intellect, but also making contact with the World of Beriyah at Daath where direct communication with the Outer Ones (or the Archangels, if you will, or the Archdemons, perhaps !?) becomes possible. Hope this makes sense to you, this posting seems to be writing itself. Had a bit of a binge yesterday and feeling rough this morning, but the library closes at 12.30pm and its nearing that time now. I call this devotion to duty so its time that all you other fuckers woke up and contributed to these forums ! (Moderator citation required - use of bad language.)
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Post by ShB on Jun 7, 2015 0:23:23 GMT
In the 'Book of Thoth' chapter on 'The High Priestess'
She is clothed only in the luminous "veil of light". It is important for high initiation to regard "Light not" as the perfect manifestation of the Eternal Spirit, but rather as the "veil which hides" that Spirit It does so all the more effectively because of its incomparably dazzling brilliance. [The tradition of the best schools of Hindu mysticism has a precise parallelism. The final obstacle to full Enlightenment is exactly this Vision of Formless Effulgence]. Thus she is light and the body of light. She is the truth "behind the veil of light." She is the soul of light. Upon her knees is the bow of Artemis, which is also a musical instrument, for she is huntress, and hunts by enchantment.
Now, regard this idea as from behind the "Veil of Light", the third Veil of the original Nothing. This light is the menstruum of manifestation, the goddess Nuith, the possibility of Form.
See also Peter J. Carroll 'Psychonaut" chapter on 'The Demon Choronzon' page.164 for references to 'false' identification of the K&C of HGA
Maat Amen
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Post by artilect on Jun 7, 2015 3:08:14 GMT
stephen, I replied to your post in a roundabout way over in the Posthumanism thread. Nice observations ShB. How does Achad's Stone of Manifestation fit in? It gets a lot of mention throughout TNA too. I have both The Book of Thoth and Psychonaut here; I'll have a look.
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Post by artilect on Jun 7, 2015 3:16:28 GMT
I call this devotion to duty so its time that all you other fuckers woke up and contributed to these forums ! (Moderator citation required - use of bad language.) Hear hear! Maybe I'll start a blog I'm game for whatever. I have all the Nightside Narratives now as well as Convolvulus, so wherever the tide is going, I will follow! Nalyd is around.. start a 'Grant and Ufology' thread already!
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Post by ShB on Jun 7, 2015 9:00:57 GMT
Ain - O - Daäth Kether - T - Tiphereth Daäth - O - Yesod
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on Jun 7, 2015 20:25:31 GMT
Nalyd is around.. start a 'Grant and Ufology' thread already! I thought I had kind of done that already HERE using the template of the influence of that particular book on Grant's ideas regarding the subject. If you'd prefer something more focused on Grant's ideas themselves I could try another approach but I did think all of that could fit in that discussion.
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Post by artilect on Jun 7, 2015 21:57:59 GMT
Nalyd is around.. start a 'Grant and Ufology' thread already! I thought I had kind of done that already HERE using the template of the influence of that particular book on Grant's ideas regarding the subject. If you'd prefer something more focused on Grant's ideas themselves I could try another approach but I did think all of that could fit in that discussion. Wow! I thought I had read through the entire forum but somehow this thread evaded me. Looks great, I'd say it more than adequately captures the UFO angle and can serve as the UFO thread!
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Post by stephen on Jun 8, 2015 13:14:33 GMT
Have just been deciding which thread to post in and decided to stick with this one.
Some of the observations in my last offering were meant to be speculative. There is quite a lot of discussion of the different types of light in Qabbalah, of their attributions and uses in meditation. Ultimately, we have the Limitless Light, the Ain Soph Aur beyond Kether, which is itself the veil of the Ain Soph - often interpreted as the Ineffable Being by qabbalists - itself the active expression of the Nothingness of Ain. And in the Tibetan Teachings we have the "Clear Light".
Thanks for drawing attention to Crowley's commentary on "The High Priestess" in this context, ShB.
KG makes a passing reference to the Tibetan word BARDO in TNA, but does not make much of it. I understand BR-DO to mean 'between two' i.e. an 'inbetween state' of which of course a number are described in the Bardo Thodol. Some time ago, I began a tentative gematria analysis of some of these terms (on the hypothesis that the BT had some basis of comparison with the Necronomicon as the Book of the Dead); not straightforward, as I appreciate that the transliteration of the Tibetan differs from its pronunciation and for the Dream State of the rmi lam br do, I was interested to obtain: MILAM BRDV, 121 + 212 = 333.
Getting back to the Daath-Yesod connection:
Posted by ShB - yesterday at 10:00am. Ain - O - Daäth Kether - T - Tiphereth Daäth - O - Yesod
Hmmm, interesting. I certainly get the O - Daath, T - Tiphereth, O - Yesod, interpretation. There are several interpretations of the symbolism of O.T.O. in the Typhonian Trilogies. KG is fond of correlating the letter Ayin (value 70) with the word Ain - 'not, nothing' which has a gematria of 61, (while OIN in full, has a gematria of 130) and I have always thought that you need to be careful with this.
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Post by ShB on Jun 8, 2015 22:19:05 GMT
130 QL the baLAnce of the two mOOns (Daäth/Yesod)
also + 61(AS) = QLAS (kalas) (<= leading back to the 'TangledLight')
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Post by stephen on Jun 12, 2015 14:54:54 GMT
We seem to have drifted some way from the original topic of this thread which was the QRIXQUOR - about which a great deal more could be said - but ShB's somewhat inscrutable gematria has brought us back there again.
The concept of the Qrixquor as the 'tangled light' motivated me to translate the phrase into Hebrew and obtain: AVR SBK = 289. No immediate revelations here, but this does provide an Oracle for verse 289 of OKBISh and seems of relevance there.
(SBK to interweave, entwine; SBKIM entangled/entwined (as thorns) Nahum 1.10).
Speaking of biblical references, my attention was recently drawn to KG's commentary on OKBISh v.608 which references Ezekiel VIII.8 This and subsequent verses make interesting reading from a Typhonian perspective:
6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations. 7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall. 8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door. 9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. 10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about. 11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. 12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, the LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.
Communicating with "every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts" in the inner places of the imagination ! The old King James Version is positively Typhonian at times, while the newer translations dilute and rationalise the magic away.
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Post by artilect on Jun 13, 2015 2:18:25 GMT
The Angel instructing Ezekiel to "dig into the wall" and his response, "so I dug into the wall", is very similar to OKBISh 347-29, "He said dive through the cone. I dove." A direction resulting in action that yields insight. Nice find regarding 289 and the Qrixkuor. I made note of the references to BRUKSA or the female night vampires wherever I encountered them when reading TNA. I find this interesting because the comment to verse 289 comes very close to what we were talking about earlier in this thread in relation to the potential implication that Tiphereth, in one of its forms, could be a false light or point of deception. The comment states that 289 = BRUKSA or BRUXSA is "especially to be avoided because the name has also the value of 869 = the qliphoth of Tiphareth, and because the averse aspect of the HGA (ascribed to Tiphareth) is a singularly dangerous phenomenon." I'm still into Hecate's Fountain and it seems to contain, on pages 54-55 (Skoob edition), a depiction of the Qrixkuor in its latent form as a mechanical owl/bat/beast-bird puppeteered by an acolyte during a NIL working. Also referred to as a 'shantak-bird', the course of events has it take on a life of its own when it mysteriously frees itself from the control of its operator to enact a gruesome end to the ritual proceedings. The 'shantak' is referred to again on page 214 of HF, where we learn of its role as a vehicle for the lower qliphoth. Can the Qrixkuor be equated with the qliphoth? I hadn't made this connection but I suppose the 'hell-bird' does have some sinister undertones! Also on this page: "LVX is the Web of Light woven by the criss-cross emanations of the Ain Soph Aur." The criss-cross comes up a lot and the Qrixkuor's function to transfer gnosis via the 'tangled light' makes sense to me (as outlined in the main post in the thread), while the qliphotic aspect is puzzling. Another curious passage I came across in HF concerns Book 29: "A certain secret grimoire known as The Book of the Spider will remain unpublished until a predestined throne has been ascended." What does this mean? Is this Grant's way of saying that a certain level of attainment had to occur before he would publish OKBISh? It's amazing how Grant could refer to future works years before their arrival and always deliver!
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Post by stephen on Jun 15, 2015 13:46:22 GMT
Artilect posted on June 13:
The Angel instructing Ezekiel to "dig into the wall" and his response, "so I dug into the wall", is very similar to OKBISh 347-29, "He said dive through the cone. I dove." A direction resulting in action that yields insight.
Actually, that is an interesting comparison.
The Shantak bird is a creation of Lovecraft's (possibly with some inspiration from Dunsany) and has its origins in "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" - plenty of references on the web and visual creations. I know the NIL Working to which you are referring and seem to recall that it reminded me in some ways of a televised version of Angela Carter's 'The Magic Toyshop' !? Have never myself associated it with the Qrixquor, which is much more than simply a bird, of course, therefore, I would not make the qlippothic identification either.
The business about The Book of the Spider not being published "until a predestined throne has been ascended" is a reference to a passage in the Wisdom of S'lba. Presumably, KG was satisfied that in some sense this event had taken place between the publication date of HF and the subsequent publication of OKBISh in TNA at the Winter Solstice of 2002 e.v. I cannot offer anything more specific about this here. OKBISh had, of course, been received during the New Isis Lodge period, even if the organising of the transmissions (or editing of the text, if you prefer) was done later.
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Post by artilect on Jul 17, 2015 2:57:21 GMT
Going through some notes tonight and noticed the attention Grant gives to the 'hell-bird' on pages 194-5 of Outer Gateways (Skoob edition). Here he does appear to identify the bird with the qliphoth: I also found the passage that I initially thought was in Hecate's Fountain, but is actually located on page 197 of Outer Gateways; another potential hint at the genesis of the Leesing/Candleston Crypt Qrixkuor encounter: Compare with Against the Light, page 8: Not sure what to make of all of this, except that the implication of the bird encounter (keeping in mind that the bird may well serve as a sort of veil or mask for something else, something 'other') seems to have had a long-lasting effect on Grant.
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