Omens of Awareness

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Quick personal background: I have had a fascination with the subject of "ufology" and related themes that goes back to when I was a little kid in the 1970's. This fascination went on the backburner as a teenager but somehow reared its head as a new interest just as I was approaching 20 in the early 1990's along with the then recently popular notions of "alien abduction". I've studied a wide range of literature on the subject and have had my own experiences with the phenomena associated with it. Because of the nature of my personal experiences I very early on gravitated more towards the literature of those like John Keel, Jacques Vallée, Gregory Little, Allen Greenfield, Patrick Harpur, etc. These particular researchers view the phenomena more along the lines of the ideas C. G. Jung initiated in his Flying Saucers and have more in common with the ideas of occult literature than with the more popular (and least likely) "nuts and bolts" or "aliens from space" models of Ufology. Naturally when I acquired Grant's Outer Gateways in 1995 it fit right in to and synthesized several strands of ideas I was already gaining interest in and/or familiar with or becoming more familiar with in most cases; mainly magick, mysticism, Thelema and the Ufological stuff.

The Ufology interest waned a bit in the first decade of the 2000's but in early 2013 Jasun Horusly (AKA Jason Horsley, Jake Horsley, Aeolus Kephas or Jason Kephas) began posting an extended online analysis of Whitley Strieber* which re-ignited my interest full on. For the past year I've been immersed in it again from various angles which brings me to this thread.

Recently I was looking at Outside the Circles of Time (2008 Starfire edition) and noticed these lines on page 56:

The magical mannikins, the dwarf dreamers, are identical with the 'wee folk', the little men of fairy lore, who were the projections of mediaeval magicians essaying the Great Work, i.e., the interpretation and exploration of the aethyrs. More recent manifestations of these fey folk, or little green men, are apparent in connection with the phenomena of so-called Ufology.

But it was the footnote to that last line that I took closer notice of:

See Keel, Vallée, Tansley, and others, for examples of this 'new' mythology which is as complex and fantastic as any evolved in ancient times.

Because of my re-ignited interest the name Tansley caught my attention because I was not familiar with this author; David Tansley. The book Grant lists by David Tansley in the bibliography is Omens of Awareness which I soon discovered has the subtitle "Startling Parallels Between UFO Phenomena and the Expanding Consciousness of Man". Of course it has long been out of print but I found a first edition of it (Neville Spearman, 1977) really cheap last week and just received it in the mail today. I've only read the introduction so far and have briefly scanned through it and can definitely see why Grant may have appreciated it. It is not a work I've seen referenced anywhere else. At least not that I've noticed or can remember. Tansley seems to be covering similar ground as the other authors I listed above but I've noticed some different references so am looking forward to perhaps some unfamiliar insights or maybe a slightly different angle on the subject. I will be coming back to this when I get into reading it.

Has anyone else here read Tansley's book? If so, what do you think of it? What parts do you think were most influential on or interesting to Kenneth Grant?

I am also opening this thread to include discussion of the broader range of authors and ideas regarding Ufological themes that had an influence on Grant and the Typhonian current of Thelema. So it's not limited to just this one author and book.

* I've linked Horusly's work elsewhere on these forums before but see HERE for the Strieber analysis proper as well as HERE for his most current blog which is of increasing interest as he continues and shares his own journey of self-realization and how he is coming to terms with it. More about his researches of Strieber and Ufology in general are also there if you scroll around.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I've been very slowly working my way through this book and am up to chapter three as of this post. It is one of several books I'm reading at the moment which is pretty typical of my reading habits.

So far Tansley has said some interesting things that are reminiscent of the theories of Meade Layne* regarding UFOs in saying they manifest from the "ether" and calling them "etheric formative forces". If I remember correctly Meade Layne used the term "etherships" for UFOs. Tansley's ideas so far seem to spring from some Theosophical influences. So a slightly different take (so far) than the theories presented by Keel, Vallée, Harpur, Little and even Jung but still compatible with the basic idea. Here is a passage that stood out to me towards the beginning:

There are scientists** who openly acknowledge that the UFO phenomena has all the appearance of some giant cosmic exercise designed to slowly undermine our rigid concepts about the world we live on and the space we inhabit. It contains all the elements of the mystical experience, not to mention the patterns of mythology, and yet is as bizarre as anything a science-fiction writer could dream up. Many parallels to it are found in the esoteric teachings and folklore, men are transformed and transported, time and space and gravity as we know them are manipulated as if by magic. The air of mystery if all pervasive, the improbable and the impossible are commonplace. (bold emphasis mine)

That passage seems to be a good indication of what the book attempts to address. It also echoes Jung's overall theme in his Flying Saucers that this kind of psychoid phenomena escalates in times of transition. It may be interesting to note that these particular perspectives about UFOs are still not prevalent among most of the UFOlogical community but ironically there seems to be some academics who have looked seriously at the subject and have drawn similar conclusions about it. Two recent academic works that take on the UFO phenomenon in this way are Thomas E. Bullard's The Myth and Mystery of UFOs and David M. Jacobs' (editor) UFOs & Abductions: Challenging the Borders of Knowledge. Both are excellent and I highly recommend them to anyone interested in this subject, especially for occultists who might want to compare some notes.

In chapter 8 of Outer Gateways KG expressed some interesting ideas about UFO phenomena as well, evidence that he understood it in much the same way as above:

As soon as it is understood that the UFO phenomenon is concomitant upon the impact on man's subtle body of these energy-spectres, then also will be understood the frustrating element of absurdity characteristic of so many direct encounters with the occupants of 'space-crafts', The absurdity is due to a muddle of concepts, as when dreaming and waking experiences are confounded.

And also:

Aleister Crowley was probably the first to stress the supreme importance of questioning rigorously the spirits, elementals, and other entities encountered in the course of astral journeys and visions. The fact that UFO encounters are not always astral in the strict sense of the term makes little difference to the principle involved. The vision, experience, contact, encounter - however it is classified - will continue to remain unintelligible until the entity concerned has revealed by unmistakeable tokens its identity and provenance.

When Grant mentions that encounters with UFOs "are not always astral in the strict sense of the term" he is referring to what Jung called "psychoid phenomena". This concept of Jung's doesn't seem to be as readily known as perhaps his synchronicities and archetypes maybe because of what it implies. Most would rather their experiences or others' experiences be easily explained away as "all in the mind" or some objective "rational" explanation. "Pychoid phenomena" defies both in that it is the objective manifestation of psychic processes; i.e. when the archetypes become physical in some sense.

For some of us I think the implications are quite clear but I have always been a little amazed at how few occultists really look deeply at these types of things.

* Meade Layne was the founder of the Borderland Sciences Research Foundation and may have been one of the first to interpret the UFO phenomenon in occult terms, supposedly channeled their occupants and wrote about the subject before the first "official" sightings in 1947. He was also once a member of the Society of Inner Light (Golden Dawn offshoot) and a student of the work of Frater Achad (according to Allen Greenfield).

** I don't know who those scientist are that Tansley mentions there.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I didn't want to overwhelm that second post but there is something else I came across recently that I thought may be interesting to share here. I've also been reading another book (what did I say above?) called The Mothman Speaks by Andrew B. Colvin. Colvin was a child when he witnessed Mothman during the famous 1966-67 sightings around Point Pleasant, WV. He is now known as the Mothman's Photographer and has quite an interesting story behind him (I'll let those interested look into all of that themselves). Anyway, he started rigorously investigating Mothman and related strands of phenomena after the 9/11 "attacks" because that event was supposedly one of the Mothman "prophecies" back in 1967; seen as a vision by his friend and himself while standing in a certain spot in his friend's yard. He has written quite a few books about his investigations. The couple I have by him are primarily made up of emails and interviews with occasional articles and notes added for clarification. One such email included, written by someone named A. Wolf, caught my attention. Here is the relevant section:

At first, me and my brother were watching the movie The Mothman Prophecies. After that, we were fascinated by Mothman and started researching it. We started to try to think of a way to lure it to our city, Red Oak, Texas. we tried to replicate what others had done before they saw the creature. Since one witness claimed to have yelled out, "If there are any demons out there, then come and get me," I was made to say it, too. Minutes later, the night grew red. It was amazing. We had never seen anything like it. The whole sky was red, like the sun was going to come up. Later that night, I woke up because my friend had taken all the covers. I was freezing. I looked around the room and everything was glowing red again for some reason. It was like someone was shining red headlights into the room... I started to hear a light tapping noise on the back door window. The tapping slowly progressed to a beating sound, then a banging sound. It was as if someone was saying, "I know you are in there, and I'm here for you." I was afraid. I acted as if I was still asleep. My friend awoke. He went to the window and looked out. He could see the outline of an 8-ft. tall creature looking upward to the sky. He was half asleep, but he couldn't help but keep staring. After a while, he noticed that he couldn't see it anymore. There was just a big black blotch that he couldn't see past. So, he went back to bed.

Soon we started seeing things standing at the foot of our beds, just staring at us - studying us. We started to feel like we were being watched.

And so on... That situation reminds me of those who approach something like an Ouija board in the same fashion. What is interesting about it to me is that it is a good example of an experience that is "not always astral in the strict sense of the term"; i.e. psychoid phenomena.

[Michael Staley]

Many thanks for drawing our attention to this book by Tansley. As indicated by the bibliography, Kenneth's library included the Abacus 1979 edition. His copy of the book has what is catalogued as "copious ms notes". I'm very interested in what you say about this book, and will look it out.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Sometimes I've found that the footnotes and bibliographies in the trilogies hold the most clues to understanding some of the finer points of Grant's ideas. With some of these books, like Tansley's for example, he may not even add any more than a casual mention in a footnote but the rewards are there for those who follow his leads. When KG adds a footnote "See Massey, Natural Genesis", he's serious about the "see" part of it.

Also I forgot a little detail in my second post here. In the first quote from Outer Gateways where Grant said "the UFO phenomenon is concomitant upon the impact on man's subtle body of these energy-spectres" I had wanted to mention that one of David Tansley's other books is titled Subtle Body: Essence and Shadow (seems to be one of the more known of his works). The "subtle body" or "light body" theme is also prevalent in Omens of Awareness where he also gets into discussing Reichenbach's "Odic Force", prana, the universal life force, radionics, etc. I haven't gotten far enough into the book as of this posting to know what his angle is but I could probably hazard a close guess. Looking a little into Tansley's background it seems that his primary interests are the healing energies of the body and he has written quite a few books on the subject. He obviously applies this knowledge to the subject of UFOs; there is even a chapter in Omens titled "The Healing Power of UFOs".

Mick, I'm curious about how deep of an interest Kenneth Grant had in the various phenomena associated with UFOs. Do you think he just naturally began making the connections between those phenomena and the resulting experiences of magical practices? or did these connections fall into his lap through works like Tansley's or John Keel's to where he began incorporating the subject into the trilogies? Did he, himself, have direct experience with UFO phenomena? By that I mean outside of intentional occult workings.

I've also noticed that many of those interested in KG's writings don't seem to spend much time investigating and/or discussing his UFO tangents. It seems obvious to me that the subject was important enough Grant to include in his major works and that in itself makes it worthy of looking deeper into.

[Gregory Peters]

Nalyd, you really must check out Andrew Collins book Light Quest (I think I ranted a little about it in another thread some time back). His arguments about UFOs being not so much "nuts and bolts" crafts but rather some type of plasma entities that in this day and age manifest to our technologically inclined consciousness as flying crafts is very convincing. In previous eras, these entities manifested as the faeries and other beings of ancient lore. He has a lot of great examples and dives into some theories about this phenomena.

I was into UFOlogy before discovering the writings of Grant, and only recently have started to get back into studying these experiences. I've read Valle a long time ago; now it would probably be far more of a deeper interest with its relation to Grant and the Typhonian tradition. The book your discuss by Tansley sounds very interesting and Ill have to track it down.

The Typhonian Tradition is so vast and rich, it is hard to explore all of it! Every facet has some new avenue that may lead to amazing new areas of research.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Gregory, I did come across LightQuest this past year while gathering more material on the subject and was initially interested in checking it out but somehow was sidetracked from that tangent. I will go ahead and put it on my never ending list of "books to acquire" now that you've reminded me of it. I have never actually read any of Andrew Collins' books but have been gradually looking into a lot of them for a few years now. For some reason though I never seem to go the step further and actually get a couple of them to see what he has to say for myself. Not sure what holds me off. Strangely, just last week I was actually considering getting his latest one Gobekli Tepe. I thought maybe I could delve into his work from the latest and work my way back.

[Deleted]

Here are a few recommendations which would add historical depth and context to your study of 'UFO's';

From India to the Planet Mars
by Théodore Flournoy; tr. Daniel B. Vermilye

This is a skeptical inquiry by the Swiss psychologist Henri Flournoy (1886 - 1955) "into a remarkable 19th century French medium, here called Hélène Smith. Her actual name was Catherine-Elise Muller (b. 1861 d. 1929). She popularized the concept of automatic writing, which earned her admiration from the latter-day Surrealists. And her interplanetary psychic visions are extremely similar to contactee accounts from the 1950s and 1960s.

Hélène, at the hands of her bossy and controlling sprit guide 'Leopold,' visited remote times and places, particularly 15th century India (where she was a doomed princess), and 18th century France (where she was Marie Antoinette), and of greatest interest, Mars. This book documents the Martian language and writing, includes hand-drawn illustrations of scenes, and mysterious vignettes of life on another planet. Included are over forty short texts in 'Martian,' with translations in French (interlinear) and English.

Flournoy's book brought Hélène fame, and the book is still in print over a hundred years later. However, she was not appreciative of his critical approach, and refused to work with him any further after the book was published."

You can read the whole book, from which I've cribbed most of the blurb above, here: sacred-texts.com/ufo/ipm/index.htm


Adamski, George  Pioneers of Space: A Trip to the Moon, Mars and Venus (1st ed.). Los Angeles: Leonard-Freefield, 1949

George Adamski was pre-eminent  among a group of American authors and tabloid fillers who became known as "the Contactees."  What is remarkable about the Contactees is not the  improbability of their meetings with aliens, travel aboard alien craft to the planets, attendence at galactic conferences and so on, but the unmistakable but forbidden voice of Utopian socialism. The alien cultures reported by the Contactees tended to be ones of enlightened vegetarian pacifism, in stark contrast to the virulent witch craze of the 1950s that found 'Communists' in every element of the nuclear-armed US administration, public life, arts and entertainment from the Whitehouse down.

You will have to decide between lies, conscious propaganda, confabulation, the upwelling of unconscious yearning for a better, fairer society -  or a mélange of some or all of these possibilities.

Lastly, I suggest John E. Mack's Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens (1994). John Mack (1929 - 2004) was a professor of psychiatry at Harvard University Medical School. In extended interviews,  Mack takes the case histories of a number of people reporting alien abduction, and reports his findings with admirable, open-minded, neutrality.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

John Mack's books are excellent. I have Abduction as well as his Passport to the Cosmos. Both are in line with my own focus.

I'm familiar with the subject matter of From India to the Planet Mars because it has cropped up in other sources I've studied but I've not actually read that book. Will take a look at it. Thanks for the link but I'll probably acquire a cheap hard copy of it. After all these years I still can't get used to staring at a computer screen to read a book.

I don't know if I can stomach reading Adamski's book though. I'm very familiar with the "contactee" era. Years ago I read several of the contactee books and most read like very bad pulp sci-fi with sprinklings of watered-down esoteric ideas. Out of all I looked at I only found George Hunt Williamson's to really say anything interesting and/or more sophisticated. What is most interesting to me about the contactee phenomenon is the seeming influence and/or manipulation by certain quasi-occult fascist groups (or perhaps groups who would like outsiders to think there is a fascist influence there).

[Deleted]

May 23, 2014 16:33:47 GMT Nalyd Khezr Bey said:

I don't know if I can stomach reading Adamski's book though. I'm very familiar with the "contactee" era. Years ago I read several of the contactee books and most read like very bad pulp sci-fi with sprinklings of watered-down esoteric ideas. Out of all I looked at I only found George Hunt Williamson's to really say anything interesting and/or more sophisticated. What is most interesting to me about the contactee phenomenon is the seeming influence and/or manipulation by certain quasi-occult fascist groups (or perhaps groups who would like outsiders to think there is a fascist influence there).

Yes, they are trash of a type, but once you notice their common aspiration towards an egalitarian eco-friendly society, you can read them as socially progressive texts, the aliens acting as ventriloquists' dummies to say what could not be said in McCarthyite America. One of the Contactees, Howard Menger, claims to receive musical gifts from benevolent Saturnians after an incident in which control of his car is taken over by a mysterious force,  and he is driven to an an "old cabin, dilapidated and apparently unused for years."  In this suitably Gothic hovel, he hears "the strains of the most inspiring, soul-tingling music ever to fall upon my ears"  which he is later able to play on the piano himself.  The result is a vinyl recording of Authentic Music from Another Planet - narrated and played by Howard Menger, Slate Enterprises Inc, 1957.  Is this very different from the automatic drawing of Hélène Smith and others? Who can say?

Radical doubt is the sorcerer's friend when it is not his enemy.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I still have a copy of Howard Menger's From Outer Space in my collection that details that story. I did find his book interesting. The contactee literature is a strange brew. It's almost as if the results of channeling sessions were given the UFO makeover in an attempt to present certain ideas (those that you mentioned) to the public in kind of a non-threatening or even absurd way. I think it may have backfired a little.

I also find the later séance and channeling work under the guidance of Andrija Puharich that resulted in contact with "the Nine" rather interesting as well; some similar themes as the earlier contactees but slightly darker in tone or maybe more ominous. Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince cover the basic details and place in a larger context of "alien contact" nicely in their Stargate Conspiracy.

[Deleted]

May 23, 2014 18:46:24 GMT Nalyd Khezr Bey said:

I still have a copy of Howard Menger's From Outer Space in my collection that details that story. I did find his book interesting. The contactee literature is a strange brew. It's almost as if the results of channeling sessions were given the UFO makeover in an attempt to present certain ideas (those that you mentioned) to the public in kind of a non-threatening or even absurd way. I think it may have backfired a little.

I also find the later séance and channeling work under the guidance of Andrija Puharich that resulted in contact with "the Nine" rather interesting as well; some similar themes as the earlier contactees but slightly darker in tone or maybe more ominous. Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince cover the basic details and place in a larger context of "alien contact" nicely in their Stargate Conspiracy.

A strange brew of unreliable narration shot through with rare flashes of insight, inspiration, and transcendence, just about sums up not only the Contactee and Abductee narratives, but the entire occult literature, though we get there in the end if we endure.

It is a long time since I read Puharich's books, but I remember that I did not believe his accounts of The Nine and Uri Geller, which I felt had been written for money.

You will contact entities soon enough.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

May 23, 2014 19:38:29 GMT @brocken said:

You will contact entities soon enough.

Sooner than you seem to expect. I've been in contact with several praeter-human intelligences for quite some time now. See HERE for some details of my LAM experiments as well as the written results HERE and HERE. There are several other such instances involving others but those are what I've shared on these forums. This is why this particular aspect of Grant's writings interest me so much.

[Deleted]

Yes, there comes the moment when we must set books aside, and get up and do it.

You are off to a good start.

The only training for sorcery is sorcery.

[Gregory Peters]

Speaking of UFOs, interesting bit in Forbes:
www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/13/iran-says-tall-white-space-aliens-control-america/

[hecate8]

I've met several contactees, including Howard Menger. My impression is that they are honestly trying to describe events that they have no reference points to use to describe what they witnessed. The spacecraft model was the closest concept they had to describe something utterly outside their experience.
All the comments in this thread we're well thought out and open minded. I don't see that often on magick forums. Well done, everyone.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

May 26, 2014 21:44:15 GMT hecate8 said:

All the comments in this thread we're well thought out and open minded. I don't see that often on magick forums. Well done, everyone.

That is exactly why I don't usually make a habit of discussing this kind of material. But I figured that those attracted to or already aligned with the Typhonian current will be the most receptive and understanding.

And thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

May 13, 2014 6:48:11 GMT Gregory Peters said:

Nalyd, you really must check out Andrew Collins book Light Quest...

Just wanted to let you know that I have a copy of this book now. I received it about a week ago but, unfortunately, the day I received it I packed it up with the majority of my book collection in boxes so I haven't had a chance to look at it. We started some home renovations this past Monday which includes building an entire wall with built-in bookshelves to house this bibliophilic collection.

I noticed that Andrew Collins also has an older book titled Alien Energy: UFOs, Ritual Landscapes and the Human Mind. The title of that one alone is intriguing to me. Do you know if it is a completely different book than LightQuest or is LightQuest simply a revised version of it?

[Gregory Peters]

Excellent, it is an interesting "field guide" to exploring this region of the mysteries. I have not read Alien Energy, which I agree has an intriguing ring to it. I will try to secure a copy. Currently I have his new book on Gobekeli Tepi on deck waiting to be read.

Sounds like a good project with the book shelves! I'm in a rather long drawn out process of moving and have been considering making some built-in bookshelves in a library/guest room. Timely coincidence.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

I now have a new wall with filled bookshelves.

What initially caught my attention about LightQuest was that it includes an introduction written by Gregory Little which says a lot to me about the direction Collins' takes. Little's three books on the subject were very influential on me early on in my studies. As I mentioned elsewhere on the forums it was a comment he made in his book Grand Illusions that inspired me to evoke the "grey alien" type in a darkened mirror which was the catalyst for my eventually working with LAM in a serious fashion. Really the unexpected results of that evocation was the catalyst for my taking the practice of Magick more seriously at all.

I have not started reading Collins' book yet but I have taken a glance through it as well as having watched an interview with him on the subject. All very interesting and inspiring and has sparked me to look closer at his work in general. I had begun seeking out some of his earlier books a few years ago based on what Paul Weston says about him in his Avalonian series of books. Now I think I may acquire a few of them. And yes, the new one on Gobekli Tepe looks like it might be good. I looked into some of the background on that subject last night and am keeping a mental file of it for later study.

[Gregory Peters]

I had forgotten about the Little reference in Collins book! Your post about Gregory Little sparked my interest and I will certainly have to pick up his material.

[Golkoth]

I have long wished to engage in a discussion about UFOs in Grant's writings. I hope this doesn't deviate too much from just the influences on Grant, but I'd like to look at his angles on the phenomena (which should help highlight links and influences anyway).

Firstly, Grant of course notes that the blooming of the modern UFO era began in 1947, which he links with the death that same year of Aleister Crowley.

He also links it to the release of nuclear energy and the reactivation of dormant human sensitivities, but on the point regarding Crowley anyone currently unaware of the curious links between Crowley and the first (famous) modern Alien Abduction should read this fantastic article: link

Grants writing is of course a highly multifaceted, prismatic thing that carefully denies any restrictive monochrome interpretation, but this is one way I have read Grant's conception of the UFO phenomena:

• The 'Aliens' are dynamic energies of the subconscious often termed the Great Old, Deep or Outer Ones.
• They normally traffic with humans through dream.
• They have dominion over earth (the true rulers), givers of the Law.
• Their vehicles are some type of projected thought form (or psychotronic devices) moulded in etheric substance which allow for the manifestation/transposition of the projecting entity's consciousness in our dimension (akin perhaps to Meade Layne's concept of ether ships and also books like Cosmic Pulse of Life by Trevor James Constable which suggests that the UFO is a bioenergetic construct)
• The Ufonauts themselves are similarly protean and perhaps more subtle even than their vehicles (which in a sense are mere extensions of themselves) and are synonymous with the older concept of the Qliphoph and the 'shells of the dead'.
  
• They have always been present (in fact they pre-date the human life wave) but have only recently been sensed on mass due to reactivation of long dormant human sensitivities
• Some types of UFO/ufonauts are the discarnate awareness of advanced magi, yogi etc
• Sex magic is one method used to open the gateways to these Outer Ones and facilitate contact, and the use of psycho-sexual energies or kalas play a vital role - 
• The UFO is the "bringer of the seed": a mechanism/theatre for the commingling of human and extraterrestrial energies (a type of congress that landed the 'curse' upon those mutants of Typhonian lineage who engaged in such 'strange unnatural love'.)
  

On these final two points, is it not curious that the 'Aliens' seem so interested in the extraction of human bodily secretions? Their abduction procedures centre, at least ostensibly, on the sexual excitation and subsequent drainage of seminal fluids (sperm, eggs, blood etc - at least as the substances are perceived by the day time minds of the contactees themselves).

The concomitant emergence of the forces of the dream and sleep (void) mind (and states beyond/between) with that of the secret 'fluids' makes me wonder about the influence of the one on the other.

One must ask how deeply linked the Outer Ones are to the magical energies that grant their manifestation?*

Although when considering Grant's statement that “when converted into energy the kalas appear as the power that motivates spacecraft” (Hecate's Fountain p253) and that they are therefore potent to effect transport over “infinite distances in the twinkling on an eye”, is it any wonder the denizens of Outer Space take such an interest?


*Recurring in my mind is a sense of affinity between the concept of occult endocrine discharges, physical or otherwise, (recurring: an image of body as distillery) and hallucinogens or psychedelics (translates: mind-manifesting) in particular DMT¬ - which is possibly even endogenous to the human body - as read in the work of Rick Strassman - the consumption of which doesn't so much just open the gateway to the Other/Outer but throws you full on through it. The records of experiences from the use of such sacred technologies are full of UFO and contact experiences (see the art of Pablo Amaringo's ayhusaca visions for excellent visual examples)

¬ Interestingly in his book True Hallucination, Terence McKenna, whilst on DMT+LSD, (Nepal, summer solstice 1969) had sex with a young English woman in which she exuded a sort of psychedelic black liquid from her genitals. This spectral fluid, which Terrence describes as leaving him “shocked to my core” presents itself as “the surface of my own mind reflected in front of me … trans-linguistic matter ... the living opalescent expression of the abyss of hyperspace … an obsidian liquid .. dark and glittering with colour and lights” which was “flowing out of her cunt”. The substance suggests a mechanism of psychic transport, allowing T M to view a distant Tibetan Lama who is in turn watching him through a mirror device. Does this not sound like a substance that could power the spacetime bending 'spacecraft' of our 'Alien Visitors'? Something that offers a window in or out of our world? And a window occasionally open just wide enough to climb through? Or as Grant writes on the power of the kalas, allowing the magician to “soar to the double star.”

[ShB]

Thanks Golkoth

once again for those that didn't notice

for further connections between Mckenna and Grant,
check out the McKenna post
theprimalgrimoire.proboards.com/thread/157/terence-mckenna
and give the AudioBook a Listen. . . (the whole thing)

. . . you will no doubt find the 'Tibetan Experience' (mentioned ABOVE) tantalising {track05-16} )
archive.org/download/PsychedeliaRawArchivesOfTerenceMckennaTalks/TerenceMckenna-TrueHallucinations05-16.mp3

"it's all right there folks"

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Good post there Golkoth and thanks for jumping in and sharing your thoughts. Your list of "Grant's conception of the UFO phenomena" reads like a description of the book I initially started this thread about; Tansley's Omens of Awareness. As I said early in the thread, I can see how Grant might have appreciated his ideas and now that I've read further into the book it is even more apparent.

I know Simplicissimus is no longer with us here but I do want to mention that his pointing to some of the "contactee" literature did push me off on another tangent of looking into that particular angle again with the possibility of re-examining some of the literature produced by this often overlooked sub-culture of individuals. As a starting point for re-examination I acquired an academic historical study of the "contactee" phenomenon titled Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s by Aaron John Gulyas. Gulyas approaches the subject of contactees from the perspective of them being on the fringe of society putting them in a unique position to critique social, political and cultural trends of their times; very similar to what I actually mentioned in a previous post above which is what initially caught my eye with this book when I came across it not long after I posted that. Like with so many other books I'm always reading on at the same time I have not read far enough into it to know how deep into the subject Gulyas gets. I'm curious how much he touches their connections to occult societies and ideas. Those connections tend to be the most revealing to me.

[Nalyd Khezr Bey]

Andrew Collins' LightQuest is turning out for me to be a very good read so far. Like with all the other books I'm simultaneously reading on, I'm only very slowly working my way through it. I've only just recently started the chapters where he is discussing his home turf in England, the section titled "Act Three - Avebury". I'm not sure how I feel about the plasma theory yet though. It seems to coincide well with other similar theories but just like the others it doesn't account for all the experiences associated with the phenomena that is currently modeled as "UFO" or "alien abduction". But he is definitely on the same track as I and those that I've admired over the years have been. I do very much appreciate Andrew's emphasis on the experiential interaction with the phenomena to see for oneself what may be going on. I'm not sure who his target audience was for this book but I found his "creative visualization for light questing" at the very end of the book (yes I did skip ahead and look at that when I first received it) to be quite safe ("safe" meaning somewhat ineffective). I don't know much about Andrew Collins but I suspect that he may know more direct ways of trafficking with these "plasma intelligences" based on what I've read of his work in Paul Weston's books as well as his own article "Calling Mr. Crowley" in Starfire Vol. II, No. 3.