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Post by stephen on Mar 29, 2021 20:35:47 GMT
It occurs to me that as people are not getting about much, some virtual 'Typhonian tourism' might be welcome and that if we did this in the form of a sort of quiz, that it might stimulate some collective interest. So this is the idea: attach the image of a place or location mentioned in the work of Kenneth Grant with something of a clue about it and anyone who is interested can identify it with whatever proof they care to offer. Then we move onto another one. I have a few lined up, but perhaps whoever identifies it first has the option of doing the next one, or whatever.... Here is the first one and a fairly easy one: Possibly - "constitutes the most powerful concentration of spiritual energy on this planet".
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Post by sandow on Apr 2, 2021 6:42:59 GMT
Arunachala ?
your clue is a quote from outer gateways, page 138.
My image:
"The mecca of the cult" (but what cult ? He, it would be too easy
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2021 15:23:08 GMT
That was indeed the sacred hill of Arunachala and the quote was from Chapter 10, "Typhonian Implicits of Arunachala" in 'Outer Gateways'. I think that we are staying with 'Outer Gateways' as a source of inspiration for Sandow's choice of image, which is the most sacred temple of the Yezidis at Lalish, northern Iraq, which contains the tomb of Sheikh Adi. The clue is from page 106 in the chapter on "The Magical Significance of Yezidic Symbolism" which has to be the weirdest exegesis of Yezidi beliefs ever written - although Anton Szandor LaVey's introduction to "The Statement of Shaitan" in his book 'The Satanic Rituals' does take some beating! So here comes another one: "aware only of an ancient lineage... ancestors lay calm in the dusk of a slumbering shrine" There is a very cryptic Grantian style link between the location of the previous image and the clue for this one. If anyone can nail that one I shall be truly impressed.
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Post by stephen on Apr 30, 2021 19:10:55 GMT
Due to the massive response to the previous post, I can confirm that the mystery location is the Church of St.Lawrence, Brundish, Suffolk. As for the cryptic link, I knew the verse from Liber OKBISh that I wanted to use as a clue, but not its number. It turned out to be verse 371, the number by gematria of LALISh from the preceding post by Sandow. See the comment in 'The Ninth Arch'. Here is one last one from me: "Also an Island" - "than which none was more secret and more evil".
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Post by cjw9 on May 6, 2021 18:10:20 GMT
I'm enjoying this thread. I'm a bit knew and not nearly as well versed as you guys BUT I am enjoying doing a little research on the places that have been mentioned! I'm currently making my way through "Outside the Circles of Time" and just a copy of "Outer Gateways" a few weeks ago. Hopefully this thread continues on and maybe I can contribute at some point in the future!
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Post by merlin on May 17, 2021 19:37:01 GMT
This is a bit different from previous ideas, how about Kenneth Grant's Golders Green home in London? A visit might not be actually possible, but I think that just locating where he lived should be enough.
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Post by stephen on May 18, 2021 17:12:01 GMT
Hmm, well that is an interesting idea Merlin. Kenneth and Steffi's home could be described as being in Golders Green, although it is (or should we say was), rather closer to Brent Cross Tube Station with a NW11 postcode. As you are probably aware they were very private people especially from the mid-1980s onwards. Kenneth's address was reasonably well known back then, but you sent him letters via his publishers initially and then via the Starfire BCM Box and as far as I am aware most people adhered to this convention. As far as I can tell, Steffi continued to live there after Kenneth's death and after she passed aware in October 2019 I believe that it came up for sale probably after being extensively modernised. As it no longer affects the privacy of the Grant family, I do not see why it should remain a 'secret' - 3 Alba Gardens. Of course, it is now someone else's private home and its just a large semi-detached house with nothing much to see. Check it out on Google Streetside. Confirmation of the address can be found at - www.parareligion.ch/k_grant.htmscroll down to Kenneth Grant's letter to John Symonds, from which it is evident that the Grants were already living there in the 1960s. And now, after all my effort on that one, is someone going to make the effort to identify that Typhonian location with the two megaliths??
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Post by merlin on May 18, 2021 19:28:05 GMT
Hmm, well that is an interesting idea Merlin. Kenneth and Steffi's home could be described as being in Golders Green, although it is (or should we say was), rather closer to Brent Cross Tube Station with a NW11 postcode. As you are probably aware they were very private people especially from the mid-1980s onwards. Kenneth's address was reasonably well known back then, but you sent him letters via his publishers initially and then via the Starfire BCM Box and as far as I am aware most people adhered to this convention. As far as I can tell, Steffi continued to live there after Kenneth's death and after she passed aware in October 2019 I believe that it came up for sale probably after being extensively modernised. As it no longer affects the privacy of the Grant family, I do not see why it should remain a 'secret' - 3 Alba Gardens. Of course, it is now someone else's private home and its just a large semi-detached house with nothing much to see. Check it out on Google Streetside. Confirmation of the address can be found at - www.parareligion.ch/k_grant.htmscroll down to Kenneth Grant's letter to John Symonds, from which it is evident that the Grants were already living there in the 1960s. And now, after all my effort on that one, is someone going to make the effort to identify that Typhonian location with the two megaliths?? Thank you for the very detailed answer, Stephen. On another note, I am wondering, if the house is now sold, what happened to Kenneth’s and Steffi’s heritage in terms of books, paintings, manuscripts, and so on and on. I think they had a lot of them, especially paintings by A.O. Spare, Crowley, and so on.
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Post by stephen on May 19, 2021 17:49:00 GMT
Yes, Merlin, the house was a veritable treasure trove - another very good reason for keeping its location discreet. I am sure that a lot of people have speculated on that one, but those who may know are remaining discreet about it. Gregory Grant (who as it so happens was born very much around the same time as me if Kenneth's letters to Spare are to be taken into account) was Kenneth and Steffi's only child and presumably soul heir therefore. What does one do with the valuable material legacy of such admired and talented parents; again a number of options suggest themselves, but the bottom line is that its not really any of our business.
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Post by merlin on May 19, 2021 20:47:32 GMT
Yes, Merlin, the house was a veritable treasure trove - another very good reason for keeping its location discreet. I am sure that a lot of people have speculated on that one, but those who may know are remaining discreet about it. Gregory Grant (who as it so happens was born very much around the same time as me if Kenneth's letters to Spare are to be taken into account) was Kenneth and Steffi's only child and presumably soul heir therefore. What does one do with the valuable material legacy of such admired and talented parents; again a number of options suggest themselves, but the bottom line is that its not really any of our business. But speculating about the whereabouts of works of art by famous artists is legitimate, I think. If we consider only Spare and Crowley, for example, one has to assume that the Grants owned at least a few paintings or drawings by both of them. (Some are visible in the photos of Kenneth in his home). Of course this is not our business, but out of curiosity it should be interesting to know if these will remain in private hands (Gregory's?) for a long time, or if these items will be offered for sale (at auction?) in the future.
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Post by stephen on May 20, 2021 15:25:02 GMT
After I had done the post yesterday, I checked out the Kenneth Grant FB page and in an item discussing the portrait of Lam someone asked who possessed this and other items that had belonged to KG, to which Michael Staley responded: Gregory Grant.
Fulgur have just announced that they will be publishing a revised/enhanced version of HIDDEN LORE, Hermetic Glyphs in September, I think - evidently this is going ahead with the permission and co-operation of the copyright holder, presumably GG.
I don't know about you Merlin, but if any of the Grant Crowleys or Spares do come up for auction, we will be talking silly money and they will be well out of my league!
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Post by merlin on May 26, 2021 19:40:27 GMT
It would be great if the the copyright holder, presumably GG, as you say, Stephen, allows production by Fulgur of prints by Spare and Crowley (and maybe other artists, too...) made from the originals that the Grants owned. I would happily buy a print of Crowley's Lam, and others, although I guess that lesser quality, unauthorized productions are available from the Internet and elsewhere.
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Post by stephen on May 27, 2021 15:49:13 GMT
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Post by stephen on May 27, 2021 16:09:33 GMT
For anyone interested in getting back to the original intention of this thread, here is another Typhonian location for identification: A place of some interest to readers familiar with chapter three of 'Outer Gateways', where it is not actually named.
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