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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2014 4:36:10 GMT
Has anyone contemplated the meditative experiments mentioned in Beyond The Mauve Zone where Zivorad is quoted referring to meditation on the tip of the nose? Kenneth Grant also mentions a correspondence where he advises him to have the group focus on the Ajna Chakra. These techniques seem to have been successful in propelling the participants' consciousness into altered states within as little as three days according to the accounts.
I've often read about concentration on the tip of the nose but have not actually incorporated it into any of my workings. I would love to hear of any experiences and/or insights anyone would have on this.
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Post by Frater Shaddad on Jan 3, 2014 14:34:09 GMT
Has anyone contemplated the meditative experiments mentioned in Beyond The Mauve Zone where Zivorad is quoted referring to meditation on the tip of the nose? Kenneth Grant also mentions a correspondence where he advises him to have the group focus on the Ajna Chakra. These techniques seem to have been successful in propelling the participants' consciousness into altered states within as little as three days according to the accounts. I've often read about concentration on the tip of the nose but have not actually incorporated it into any of my workings. I would love to hear of any experiences and/or insights anyone would have on this. I've spoken with a few people who used to be really into Zivorad's writings, and a couple even attended his Workshops. Not one had really great things to say, overall. All had moved on from Zivorad's "stuff". I've read some of his, albeit poorly translated, writings and was far from impressed. Honestly, I couldn't even finish his Dawn of Aivaz. The only insight I have on "concentration on the tip of the nose" is: do it alone, because you'll be sitting there cross eyed, staring at your "disappearing" nose, and just looking rather silly.   Seriously though, if you're really curious, just try it. Personally, I would rather concentrate on the chakras, as Grant suggests, or doing the LAM Serpent Sadhana, etc. |
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Post by Marc on Jan 3, 2014 15:26:29 GMT
Interesting...thanks for the honest feedback. I am not familiar with Zivorad at all outside of Grant's mention.
The reason this post came up is because I was reading through Beyond the Mauve Zone and specifically those chapters.
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Post by Frater Shaddad on Jan 3, 2014 15:45:09 GMT
You're welcome.
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Post by Frater Shaddad on Jan 3, 2014 15:45:25 GMT
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Post by Gregory Peters on Feb 9, 2014 19:36:54 GMT
My understanding of Zivorad's work is that it is an adaptation of some of the advanced techniques that are taught in Scientology? The deconditioning practices that are designed to make one "clear" are along these lines. It makes sense that this would help with a type of Gnostic breakthrough. In my own case, I get more from Ramana Maharhi's atmavichara ("Who am I?") than the Zivorad practices, but I have not read any of his books.
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Post by Gregory Peters on Aug 26, 2015 17:22:25 GMT
My understanding of Zivorad's work is that it is an adaptation of some of the advanced techniques that are taught in Scientology? The deconditioning practices that are designed to make one "clear" are along these lines. It makes sense that this would help with a type of Gnostic breakthrough. In my own case, I get more from Ramana Maharhi's atmavichara ("Who am I?") than the Zivorad practices, but I have not read any of his books. Side note to this: I was in communication with Zivorad a few years back, trying to organize a seminar with him for a Gnostic intensive. Unfortunately I was not able to drive up enough reservations to make it cost effective. Would have been an interesting experience I think to go through his workshops |
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Seriously though, if you're really curious, just try it. Personally, I would rather concentrate on the chakras, as Grant suggests, or doing the LAM Serpent Sadhana, etc. 
