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Post by Mikhale on May 27, 2016 6:14:44 GMT
Did Mr. Grant keep a personal record or magickal record? If so are they published? Forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere. Thanks
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Post by BSh on May 27, 2016 8:23:04 GMT
It was addressed by me just over a week ago in the thread titled "Works by Grant beyond the trilogies" - q.v.! According to Michael, there appears to have been some terrible accident such as a fire which they did not survive.
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Post by BSh on May 27, 2016 8:29:30 GMT
Correction - (I cannot find an "Edit" function") - it was my own supposition there was a dreadful accident such as a fire (Michael has yet to corroborate) - but it certainly appears that "the bulk" of the diaries which he (KG) kept are no longer with us, for some reason.
As I also observed, this represents a terrible loss to mankind.
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Post by Michael Staley on May 27, 2016 11:00:47 GMT
Whilst it is certainly regrettable that they haven't survived, it's not "a terrible loss to mankind". There is an inspiring body of work, aspects of which the diaries could have illuminated, but the work stands without the diaries. What survives is a series of pocket diaries covering several decades, from which for instance the endpapers of the republished trilogies volumes are drawn.
There is an analogy here with Crowley. At certain periods of his life - for example. Cefalu - his diaries are voluminous. For other periods - the 1940s, for example - the diaries are faily skimpy, often little more than records of appointments, visitors, letters received and sent, etc. Whilst it's certainly interesting to have access to his diaries, by and large it's supplemental, and I don't think we'd miss much if they were't there.
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Post by B on May 28, 2016 1:15:18 GMT
Yes, you're quite right and I was going a bit over the top with my hyperbole and praise there. At the end of it all, Kenneth Grant was only a mere man and certainly not the saviour of the human race or anything anywhere near as wonderful or ridiculous as that.
If his diaries were somehow to turn out to be not much more than lists of doctor's appointments, shopping lists and things of that ilk, however - rather along the lines of what you reported Crowley's records of the 1940s to be like - why, they would be no great loss at all. But seeing the great value which he himself placed upon the magickal diary as being the prime means of consideration regarding the worthiness for prospective entry into the O.T.O., unless this was to represent the rankest hypocrisy his own efforts then must therefore surely have represented the quintessential acme of the crystallisation of his personal magickal experience and mentation, reflected and distilled into immediately powerful and direct prose, and set down and valuable to posterity for reason of that timely concentration of language alone - and this whether directly linked to the Typhonian trilogies as well, or not.
Would it then be asking too much to enquire what really DID physically happen to the bulk of all his magickal diaries? Or is this all supposed to be rated secret, or something?
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Post by Michael Staley on May 28, 2016 14:58:10 GMT
Would it then be asking too much to enquire what really DID physically happen to the bulk of all his magickal diaries? Or is this all supposed to be rated secret, or something? Yes, it would be asking too much, actually. Not because it is a secret, but because of the offensive manner of your asking. I've no idea why you are being sarcastic, but if you think it an appropriate way to elicit information from me then you are sadly mistaken. |
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Post by Michael Staley on May 30, 2016 14:24:12 GMT
Did Mr. Grant keep a personal record or magickal record? If so are they published? Forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere. Thanks Yes, he did keep a Magical Record. However, they have not been published, and there are at present no plans to do so. Few of the Magical Records have survived. We do though have pocket notebooks which have survived; these are essentially records of appointments, correspondence received and sent, progress of writing and publishing books, etc., and these have been drawn upon for the endpapers of the republished trilogies volumes. |
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Post by Mikhale on May 31, 2016 12:28:06 GMT
Thank you for your response Michael.
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