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Post by Marc on Nov 21, 2013 23:30:39 GMT
This thread is to list and discuss any films and/or television shows which have strong Typhonian and occult elements in them.
I will begin with a short list:
-Matrix Trilogy -Avatar -Event Horizon -Twin Peaks show -The Thirteenth Floor -Altered States -Cube 2: Hypercube -Blade Runner -Star Wars -2001: Space Odyssey -Dagon
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Post by ShB on Nov 22, 2013 5:35:03 GMT
David Cronenberg's "The Fly"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:41:32 GMT
How about Polanski's 'The Ninth Gate' ?
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Post by Aleph on Nov 22, 2013 13:46:19 GMT
The Blood Beast Terror is probably closer to home
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Post by Gregory Peters on Nov 22, 2013 16:45:44 GMT
Prometheus
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Post by Michael Staley on Nov 22, 2013 17:41:51 GMT
I'd certainly ad to that list "Inland Empire" by David Lynch, a meditation on the fluctuations of identity. I'd probably add his previous film, too, "Mulholland Drive" .
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Post by jcurwen on Nov 22, 2013 20:00:04 GMT
I would say the John Carpenter movies the Thing, Prince of Darkness, and In the Mouth of Madness, without a doubt. Prince of Darkness interprets Satan an a sort of cosmic principle of spiritual anti-matter, like an Anti - Kether (or something like that). Mouth of Madness is a good "Ancient Forces Making The Human Race Insane" story. Hellraiser 1 and 2 are pretty serious, based off stories by Clive Barker, who is a strange alchemist of fiction and a great artist. The 70s Dunwich Horror movie is great, with a more psychedelic / pagan / sexual theme than the original story. Bram Stokers Dracula by FF Copolla is just a beautiful movie in general and is a good portrayal of Vampirism - by - Magick, including hot naked Succubi preying on poor Keanu Reeves. Il try to think of some more.
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Post by Aleph on Nov 22, 2013 20:47:16 GMT
Pacific Rim
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on Nov 23, 2013 3:27:33 GMT
I'd certainly ad to that list "Inland Empire" by David Lynch, a meditation on the fluctuations of identity. I'd probably add his previous film, too, "Mulholland Drive" . I'll second that. I'll also add the following which I think are suggestive of themes we find in the Typhonian tradition more than anything overt and/or they lend themselves well to a kind of nightside atmosphere if you will: David Cronenberg's The Brood and Naked Lunch
The Dark
Nosferatu - the F. W. Murnau original The Mothman Prophecies
The Mummy - 1932 original with Karloff Communion
BegottenOut of Mind - found on the The H. P. Lovecraft Collection Volume 3 DVD Meshes of the AfternoonI could list several more but I feel that doing so would take this thread into just a survey of occult or esoteric films as opposed to strictly of the Typhonian vibe.
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Post by Vadge Moore on Nov 23, 2013 17:13:35 GMT
You have to include the original Dracula with Bela Lugosi, a film and actor that Grant was very interested in. Dracula's castle with the huge, steep staircase looks just like something one would find in the tunnels of Set and at one point in the film you can see a gigantic vesica piscis on one of the walls...this represents for me the portal of Daath or, additionally, Yesod.
Dracula is very clearly a Nightside entity that can not survive the rays of the Sun on the front of the Tree (Tipherath) but does achieve immortality by going into the Nightside, becoming a vampire and winging his immortal self into the trans-plutonic zones outside the circles of time. Of course the vampire bat, for Grant, symbolizes viparita maithuna, the retroversion of the senses that leads the aspirant to their immortal self and also indicates the formula of the eleventh degree sex magick that utilizes the mixed elixir of semen and menstrual BLOOD. Blood being the substance that the vampire craves most.
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Post by chapter53 on Nov 24, 2013 7:38:51 GMT
I watched Possession (1981) a few months ago on recommendation from someone in the Typhonian facebook group and it has been in my thoughts ever since. The movie is so terribly amazing, the performances are atrocious but couldn't be more perfect and the story is super weird and pulls you in. I don't watch a lot of movies, but this one was fantastic. Also, the main dude from Jurassic Park is in it, hilarious to think about.
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on Nov 24, 2013 14:35:50 GMT
I second the original Dracula as well Vadge. I was almost going to include it in my little list there but I haven't seen it since I was a kid. It just didn't feel right for me to mention it for that reason so I went with Nosferatu instead because, well, it's Nosferatu.
A few that came to mind today that may also have some relevant themes:
Lovely Molly
Stay
Jacob's Ladder
Darkness
And I'll go out on a limb with these next few because what is relevant may not be immediately apparent. I'll explain briefly why.
The Fourth Kind - Olatunde Osunsanmi (writer/director) really did some research in putting this little film about alien abduction together. Like with the film version of Communion, the ambiguity of the subject matter is left intact giving it a more authentic feel and he even had the "aliens" speaking Sumerian which I thought was an interesting touch. The owl motif (as a kind of mask or screen memory) makes its way into this one as well.
The Descent - First of all, with the exception of all the characters being women, on the surface of it the subject matter is very Lovecraftian with the characters descending into a cave and coming up against some humanoid, sort of bat-like, creatures that may be the product of an isolated evolution or possibly a devolution of sorts. Either way the creatures are very primordial like some ancient race of beings straight out of Lovecraft. However, from another perspective I think the story's "descent" is more metaphorical (a descent into the darkest realms of the subconscious) and can be likened to what someone unprepared faces when approaching the Nightside Tree and the Tunnels of Set. I would have to give it another watch to go into details about what I mean but I do remember appreciating this movie on several levels. The characters in the story have some psychic baggage they're carrying with them so the crisis of the cave, the creatures and the claustrophobia are more of a catalyst that evoke their real "demons".
Inception - Anyone who has engaged in Oneiric Sorcery should find the dream model depicted in this film very interesting. Other than that the actual subject matter is more of a filler and is less relevant. Fun movie to watch though.
Now Marc, do you want us to just list movies here or do you want more explanations about why we mention them as I did with those last three? I can elaborate on all of what I've listed if you like.
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Post by Vadge Moore on Nov 24, 2013 14:44:26 GMT
Nalyd...and lets not forget Nosferatu with Klaus Kinski....a classic! Grant mentions this movie in his books as well. I so appreciate all of the suggestions in this thread. Damn you people! Now I have to somehow find time in my day for the movies you recommend...AND the books? Vampiric immortality is the only way I can find the time to ingest all of this!
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on Nov 24, 2013 15:04:20 GMT
Vadge, I have to admit that I didn't care much for that version when I saw it years ago. However, the way I initially came to it probably tainted my view of it at the time. I bought a VHS copy of it back in the mid-1990's under the impression it was the original silent Nosferatu; it came in a box with just painted artwork with no indication of what the film itself looked like and I was ignorant then of the fact that there was the 1979 remake. I was more disappointed that it was not the movie I expected it to be. I haven't seen it since then. Now that you reminded me of it I think an unbiased re-evaluation of it might be warranted. It probably is a good film.
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Post by Vadge Moore on Nov 24, 2013 15:10:33 GMT
Nalyd....oh yes. That is a great film, and Kinski is a madman in the same vein as what Grant describes in the Monstrous Soul chapter of Outside the Circles of Time. Kinski was clearly tapped into a Qliphotic current; as was Lautreamont, Baudelaire and Dali. A true tortured artist, Kinski.
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Post by Nalyd Khezr Bey on Nov 24, 2013 15:33:51 GMT
Fuck man, why didn't you just say so? Now that you put it that way I have to look at it again.
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Post by Marc on Nov 25, 2013 0:41:02 GMT
Nalyd, sorry to respond to your question this late (problems with my laptop)...yeah, I think it would be cool if everyone commented on their films of choice. Sometimes symbolism in film is subtle and not picked up by some. By the way, I didn't realize that this thread would pick up this quickly. Many movies listed on here I haven't seen for a while or haven't seen at all. This is great!
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Post by Gregory Peters on Nov 25, 2013 15:56:14 GMT
Just heard about a new one from a colleague, have not had a chance to see it yet but seems promising. Its called Escape From Tomorrow escapefromtomorrow.com
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Post by Frater Shaddad on Nov 25, 2013 18:45:06 GMT
Blood Feast- From IMDB "An Egyptian caterer kills various women in suburban Miami to use their body parts to bring to life a dormant Egyptian goddess, while an inept police detective try to track him down." Sounds like something that could have been in one of KG's Nightside Narratives!
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Post by christibrany on Nov 30, 2013 16:59:46 GMT
Ive seen most all these but but Blood Feast sounds pretty entertaining
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Post by ShB on Dec 1, 2013 21:53:37 GMT
David Cronenberg's 'The Fly' 1986 (some pertinent quotes/themes)
"I'm working on something that will change the world, and human life as we know it." 'The Black Eggs of Akasha' TelePods " S E T H " " O M N I " "Particle Magazine" Baboon The Ape of Thoth "I just want to eat you up" "It's the flesh, it just makes you crazy" "I didn't mean to kill your brother, but he didn't die in vain." "I got Jealous." "Oh God Seth" "Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation, is inherently purging, it makes a man a King. From the moment I walked out of the Pod, I felt like a million bucks." "Let's Go! Move! Catch me, if you can." "You're afraid to dive into the plasma pool, aren't you. You're afraid to be destroyed, and recreated, aren't you… … You can't penetrate beyond societies sick, grey, fear of the flesh." "Drink deep, or taste not the plasma spring." "I'm not just talking about sex, and penetration. I'm talking about penetration, beyond the veil of the flesh. A deep penetrating dive, into the plasma pool." "'Are you some sort of Magician?' 'Yes'" "You're changing Seth. Everything about you, is changing. You look bad, you smell bad." "Is this how it starts? Am I, dying?" Fusion "Every time I look in the mirror, someone different, someone more hideous." 'Monolith Publishing' "I'm becoming something that never existed before." "You, Me, and the Baby." 'We'll be the ultimate family. A family of three, joined together in one body."
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Post by jcurwen on Dec 2, 2013 21:25:03 GMT
Nice... Its been so long since ive seen that one...Cronenberg is great...his film "Shivers" is a good one with themes of alien intelligence manipulating and preying on human sexual energy, with some absurd imagery.
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Post by acephale on Dec 14, 2013 2:48:12 GMT
Banshee Chapter. I grabbed it because of the fact it had Ted Levine playing Hunter S. Thompson (they changed the name but no one is going to miss that) and then marveled at the opening of MK-Ultra footage because I'm midway through Levenda's first volume of Sinister Forces and that is a damn good synchronicity. I think it's on VOD at the moment but worth tracking down.
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Post by Frater Shaddad on Dec 15, 2013 8:50:14 GMT
One more horror film that has some Typhonian/Nightside elements, and is rather good, in my opinion:
Death by Invitation- A film about a witch executed by a member of the Vroot family, but not before cursing him and his future descendents to death. The spirit of this witch then overshadows and influences her own descendent into murdering the descendents of the Vroot family.
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Post by PW PV 113 on Jan 5, 2014 9:08:00 GMT
The works of Andrei Tarkovsky - especially Stalker Repulsion by Roman Polanski
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