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Post by Paolo on Oct 5, 2013 22:37:37 GMT
The Typhonian Trilogies study group
One of the early seeds of inspiration which gave birth to this forum was the idea of creating a Typhonian study group to work through Kenneth Grant's Typhonian trilogies fairly systematically and in sequence. This would be well timed since Starfire has already published The Magical Revival and Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God, with Cults of the Shadow not far in the future now. This should keep us going for a good year or so and by then the next couple will be available so no one need feel left out or feel they need to buy an expensive out of print book.
I know that many of us are busy, and I am not proposing something intensive that it impacts our lives and magical works. This really is a chance for us all to actually personally make a point of reading the work and discussing it with like minded magicians together.
So I suggest that we start The Magical Revival and aim to read a chapter every fortnight. I'll kick this off in a moment with a thread dedicated to chapter one of The Magical Revival and in two weeks time with chapter 2 etc. Do feel free to create a thread to start the next chapter if a moderator has not, although going too fast may mean that you will be leaving other readers behind, working through this together and sharing ideas and opinions will I feel be of more value than simply being the fastest reader of the trilogies. Proceeding at this steady rate should not be overburdening to anyone, and of course people working at their own rate can post on threads when they want.
This is probably a good point that I feel that both academic and personal views are equally welcome and relevant. Is a person wants to say "such and such" to me means to me "this personal issue" that is fine so please do not cry "where are your references" to a personal opinion. For me magic is a very personal subject and the feelings, images and energies invoked by this work are the treasures we find.
Of course as always lets all be respectful to each others opinions and all be enriched by the gems found in Mr Grants work
Best Wishes
Paolo
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Post by remeavithanatos on Oct 6, 2013 10:42:41 GMT
Fantastic idea Paolo. I shall very much enjoy a group analysis of the material. Currently reading OTCOT again but such a promising plan deserves I revisit TMR.
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Post by Marc on Oct 7, 2013 0:55:07 GMT
This would be amazing. How would we structure the study group? I think this would be a great help to many as the Trilogies are not the easiest to digest. I"m definitely on board!
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Post by Paolo on Oct 7, 2013 9:04:52 GMT
Hi Marc
The structure for this is simple. Each chapter will have a new thread so people can read the chapter and contribute their thoughts. I (or someone) will create a new chapter thread every 2 weeks or so
I have already created and made a starting post for chapter 1 of The Magical Revival which you will find in this section of the forum.
Cheers Paolo
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Post by Marc on Oct 7, 2013 17:51:16 GMT
Wonderful. I shall re-read the chapter and I look forward to fruitful insights on things I don't understand or need clarification on.
Cheers
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Post by chapter53 on Oct 7, 2013 18:37:01 GMT
Super exciting stuff! When this idea was mentioned on facebook a few months ago, It blew my socks off. I'm so excited to participate in this.
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Post by Paolo on Oct 7, 2013 19:39:34 GMT
Awesome. I am looking forward to learning with lots of people here  |
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Post by nyar261 on Oct 8, 2013 0:18:54 GMT
Sure, count me in. |
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Post by Marc on Oct 8, 2013 2:44:02 GMT
will we be keeping each chapter thread open as we move along to the next chapters so we can go back as new insights arise?
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Post by Paolo on Oct 8, 2013 6:39:18 GMT
Of course. The idea is to be open, not closed. People can work through at their own pace. I would rather avoid opening up all possible threads too quickly though since I dont want people to feel left behind, there is no rush however and a slow simmer seems best.
And I really want to encourage discussion of personal views and experience etc, academic references which whilst welcome moves us into a different domain and as far as magic is concerned of secondary importance.
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Post by vigormortis on Oct 9, 2013 7:42:05 GMT
This study group is precisely the sort of thing I was hoping to find on this forum. This is quite encouraging and I look forward to participating. I just began rereading the first set of trilogies, so the timing couldn't be better.
-Andy
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Post by stevedavies on Oct 19, 2013 9:37:58 GMT
I think this is going to become my favourite part of this site :-)
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Post by Vadge Moore on Oct 19, 2013 13:16:02 GMT
This sounds great. A week or two back i finished Ninth Arch again, went back to Nightside and have now moved on to Outside the Circles. I can simultaneously return to Revival chapters too.
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Post by Michael Staley on Oct 19, 2013 20:52:16 GMT
I think this is going to become my favourite part of this site :-) I'm sure that will be so for many of us. The Typhonian Trilogies is a fantastically diverse body of work published over the course of thirty years, but was the fruit of Kenneth's work over the decades preceding the publication of The Magical Revival in 1972. For instance, in an article in the International Times, in I think 1968, Kenneth mentioned a study of Crowley in preparation, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. This work was eventually submitted to Muller, who suggested that due to its size it be split into two works. Thus was born The Magical Revival and, subsequently, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. Although I like to think that I know Grant's work quite well, it's astonishing when preparing each individual Trilogies volume for publication to plunge into the innards of it, and appreciate with such force how deep and multi-layered it is. Over the past couple of months I've been preparing Nightside of Eden for publication, and it resonates with me like never before. No matter how well we think we know something, there's always a great deal more to come. This idea of a methodical work-through of the individual chapters is a great idea of Paolo's, and will be very fruitful. |
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Post by Cathlain on Oct 21, 2013 19:48:04 GMT
I finished reading The Magickal Revival two months ago, inbetween and thereafter Outside The Circles Of Time. So this study group comes at the right time and its a revival for my past days studies some 25 years ago. Still waiting for the Cult Of The Shadows to be published.
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Post by Michael Staley on Oct 21, 2013 20:46:46 GMT
Cults will be published very soon, Cathian. Received samples of most of the printed materials a few days ago - text, plates, frontispiece. Due to receive remainder - illustrated endpapers, dustjacket - tomorrow. Then, assuming it's all OK, it's on to the binding, with delivery to me at the end of the month and publication in early November.
In the meantime, we're presently working on preparing Nightside of Eden for republication this Winter.
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Post by Marc on Oct 21, 2013 23:50:45 GMT
Michael, just an aesthetics question for you. I know the cover (dust jacket) for Revival was slightly changed from the original versions previously released. I actually prefer the yellow and black. Will you be changing all of the dust jacket formats for the upcoming volumes?
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Post by thecharcuterist on Oct 23, 2013 23:15:53 GMT
I am very excited to find this part of the forum. I will be playing catch up with a smile.
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Post by sirius1 on Jul 21, 2014 22:19:39 GMT
I've not been on for a while as I have Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (brought on by Asthma). It comes and goes and this last few months it paid me a visit! I think if the Master Therion were alive today he would be that more appreciated in life than hitherto, as would Howard Phillips Lovecraft - if only to expand on His appreciation and acknowledgement of the existence of the personifications he had mentioned in his various books and stories.
Thelema still exists though to what level of experience it is today to that when the Master Therion was around is hard to say. I gathered much from his book, Moonchild, and his essays and notes in the Equinox, which lead me to suspect there is still a lot to research with regard to his past involvement with Liber Al.
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Post by sirius1 on Jul 21, 2014 22:44:03 GMT
I am re-acquainting myself with Kenneth Grant's Books and his knowledge adds to that which the Master Therion or Perdurablo if you will, set down the ground rules or foundations of Chaos. The artist Austin Osman Spare has some really profound vistas in His works. I also like to read the magazine Clavis (looking forward to Clavis 3 - which comes out later this year)! Anyone else here read this magazine?
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Post by sirius1 on Jul 21, 2014 23:02:16 GMT
Azoetia by Andrew D. Chumbley was the piece de Resistance and although it took some time for the information via graphic and text to percolate down into the sub-conscious, it did eventually hit the gong and produce the right reverberation! Expensive though it was, it was worth having it - if only because of the imagery that had more than the graphic and textual content. These images - some of them had been 'worked on' via ritual, to induce the spirit(s) of a specific demon or principality into the device within each book - which, when opened gave One a personal introduction to a given Spirit, ad hoc! The book I have has a low number and is personally signed. When I touched 'His' monograph I immediately felt something akin to snakes or worms undulating at the base of my neck and climbing up into my occipital region of my brain - quite off-putting but the dreams which followed for several nights were exalted imagery of the very best kind of living organism on the Other Side which imparted knowledge to me. The last time that this happened to me was when I was a priest of the Temple of the Prince, Manchester, England.
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Post by Michael Staley on Aug 15, 2014 20:04:34 GMT
Michael, just an aesthetics question for you. I know the cover (dust jacket) for Revival was slightly changed from the original versions previously released. I actually prefer the yellow and black. Will you be changing all of the dust jacket formats for the upcoming volumes? I'm sorry to have missed at the time this question from you, Marc. Steffi Grant submitted a revised cover design for The Magical Revival, and was keen for it to be used for the republication. I agree that it's better than the original. The book was recently published in the Czech Republic, and the publishers used the new cover design, as can be seen from this link: www.kosmas.cz/hledani/?query=magick%C3%A9+obrozen%C3%ADWhen it came to Cults of the Shadow, I offered Steffi the choice of the Muller or the Skoob cover designs, and she opted for the latter. The difference in cover arose because at a late stage of production, Muller lost the artwork for the cover design. Thus an illustration from inside the book was used as the focus of the cover. When Skoob proposed reprinting the book in the 1990s, Steffi took the opportunity of producing a new cover design, presumably in line with the original. If Steffi comes up with variant cover designs for any of the three volumes in the final trilogy, which will be republished through 2015, then I'll be happy to use them. |
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Post by artilect on Apr 30, 2015 20:57:10 GMT
I think this is going to become my favourite part of this site :-) I'm sure that will be so for many of us. The Typhonian Trilogies is a fantastically diverse body of work published over the course of thirty years, but was the fruit of Kenneth's work over the decades preceding the publication of The Magical Revival in 1972. For instance, in an article in the International Times, in I think 1968, Kenneth mentioned a study of Crowley in preparation, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. This work was eventually submitted to Muller, who suggested that due to its size it be split into two works. Thus was born The Magical Revival and, subsequently, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. I wonder if this may be the International Times article Michael is referencing? |
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Post by Michael Staley on May 4, 2015 14:21:19 GMT
I'm sure that will be so for many of us. The Typhonian Trilogies is a fantastically diverse body of work published over the course of thirty years, but was the fruit of Kenneth's work over the decades preceding the publication of The Magical Revival in 1972. For instance, in an article in the International Times, in I think 1968, Kenneth mentioned a study of Crowley in preparation, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. This work was eventually submitted to Muller, who suggested that due to its size it be split into two works. Thus was born The Magical Revival and, subsequently, Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. I wonder if this may be the International Times article Michael is referencing? No, I don't think it was. The article to which you are linking here is 'The Golden Dawn: A Note on Aleister Crowley' from issue 33, June 1968. Issue 49, Jan/Feb 1969, contained a second article about Crowley, 'Love Under Will', and I believe that it is in the course of this article that Kenneth refers to his work in preparation. Incidentally, once the final trilogy volume ( The Ninth Arch, for anyone who has just beamed down from another planet) has been republished, there are more publications by Kenneth Grant planned. One of them is a volume which collects together the articles, introductions etc which Kenneth published in various books, magazines and encyclopedias over the decades. This will of course not include the various articles collected in At the Feet of the Guru. This collection should be published in 2016. |
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Post by artilect on May 4, 2015 16:16:43 GMT
I wonder if this may be the International Times article Michael is referencing? No, I don't think it was. The article to which you are linking here is 'The Golden Dawn: A Note on Aleister Crowley' from issue 33, June 1968. Issue 49, Jan/Feb 1969, contained a second article about Crowley, 'Love Under Will', and I believe that it is in the course of this article that Kenneth refers to his work in preparation. Ah, interesting. On rereading Beyond the Mauve Zone, I have noticed Grant refers to articles in the International Times in a few spots. Here is the link to the article in Issue 49: Love Under Will ( text version) Fantastic to hear that this book of collected articles and introductions is still planned! Being that this is the 'Study Group' thread, I suppose it would be appropriate to post this here... Michael, over at Lashtal at one point you had mentioned work on an index of Grant's gematria. I think this would be an excellent resource to have. Another consideration would be to collect and concatenate the Glossaries from each of the Trilogies books into one large consolidated listing. Grant himself suggests at the end of the Glossary in BtMZ that the reader refer to glossaries in the preceding books to get a 'whole picture'. I guess something like this gematria and glossary collection could potentially fall into another book, a Reader's Guide to Kenneth Grant's Typhonian Trilogies? A KG chronology would also fit in here as would other helpful listings, connections, cheat sheets, etc. I'm sure. As an introduction, a good survey of the entire thing - even your 'Scintillations in Mauve' or something like it - would be useful here too. After all, it's not as if you'll be overly busy publishing books over the next while  |
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